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From: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 7 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: News on the Celebrity Centre meeting of religious interfaith leaders and LA PD, hosted by Scientologist COS Vice President Bob Adams. ANONYMOUS warning....

Celebrity Centre in Hollywood had a gathering of people yesterday or the day before, regarding Scientology's program regarding "hate crime" groups, etc.

The LA Chief of police, apparantly was there, religious people, all sorts of interfaith leaders, and Scientology had Bob Adams officiating, he is being titled "Vice President of COS", and Heber wasn't there.

This interfaith work building allies with religious groups and the police, was something Heber accomplished over the past decade or so, and it is sad that Heber wasn't there, his presence was missed I imagine by all those allies Heber built over the years.

I suppose those there would be sadder to hear that Scientology leader David Miscavige has despicably treated and demeaned Heber Jenztsch. The Hubbard/Scientology heartless bureaucratic penalty system misused by David Miscavige is what kept Heber from appearing at this meeting/ gathering as President COS.

I personally think Bob Adams is a smoother more literate and experessive PR frontperson for Scientology, now that I've heard him talk (I listened to one of his recent radio interviews). He at least is NOT so combative, like Heber can be.

This CC Int meeting fits with Scientology's program on hate crime.

It is pretty much understood by intelligent observers of Scientology that Scientology has an ulterior motive in all this.

The LA Chief of police, Cecil Murray (the dean of black pastors), a rep from the Muslim Public Affairs Council, several Evangelical leaders, were all there.

The reps from the LAPD indicated that they were taking anonymous very seriously and had logged a list of felonies perpetrated by it, there now being a new set of laws relative to the Internet that have grown out of the anti-terrorism campaign.

These laws also interface with criminal conspiracy laws that will catch up with people who know who anonymous is and have maintained their secret.

That's the Scientology strategy and this is the important message!

This anti hate crime stuff is serious at least Scientology seems to have gotten some serious LAPD support on this. That was the warning.

The head of the LAPD Internet Crime task Force also spoke. He tied the anonymous case to the more numerous cases of Internet sexual predators.

I think the best policy to use against Scientology is "good roads good weather", act decently, act high principled,

Be friendly, use "ARC" and "good roads and good weather" behavior.

It jams Scientologists' thinking when anonymous people act decent and polite!

Tory being such a nice person, has done tremendous jamming, in fact, when I got out, Tory's nice personality jammed up lots of my Scientology brainwashing.

Decent smart rational behavior and rational messages helped unbrainwash me.

If anonymous wants to combat Scientology's propagandizing of anonymous, my advice is anonymous people have to act decently and use Hubbard's ideas in the word battle. Hubbard ideas are guaranteed messages that Scientologists will listen to.

Placing Hubbard's ideas back to back or contrasted with generally accepted rational thought, is what unbrainwashes them.

Scientology does NOT have a theologian class to advise official Scientology on the bad Hubbard ideas.

The job of fighting against Hubbard's bad ideas falls to outsiders, former members willing to keep up the dialogue, etc., do their bits for a while, and then let the next generation of ex members get up the nerve to speak up on the latest crappy events internally that are hidden from the public until ex members speak up!

There is just a huge need for constant intelligent rational dissecting of the Hubbard doctrines that keep the extensive Scientology system rolling.

Scientology is not just folding up!

We don't have religious scholars clamoring to dissect Hubbard's bad policies and make influential comments that official Scientology might better take.

We only have Hubbard's ideas, driving OSA people to build their allies in our society, sidestepping all the foul harm that Hubbard's bad ideas cause within Scientology that cause the turmoil in people's lives, and drive the protest against Scientology/Hubbard.

Hubbard's rules that tell OSA to use allies, and Hubbard's rules that tell OSA/Scientologists to deliver the latest propaganda message, is what we have.

[Hubbard's policy: "OFFICE OF SPECIAL AFFAIRS NETWORK ORDER 15, 18 February 1988 Confidential BLACK PROPAGANDA ... To cease to be the effect of classification and become in our turn the cause of it, the classifier, is to win the propaganda game. Our propaganda is dirty.... We do this trick by survey and attack.... we become re- classified as attackers and the enemy as bad hats as they're for the evil if they attack us... We just run propaganda campaigns....It reclassifies our attackers as evil people... we (1) Seek to avoid opportunities for the enemy to classify us. (2) Contest or expose any previous classifications as false (dead agentry, etc.) (3) Engage in a series of campaigns which confuse past classification. (4) Achieve for ourselves a dominance in classifying ourselves and others." "L. RON HUBBARD, Founder (1972, reissued 1988)" ]

Officials have to be spoon fed Hubbard's doctrines that OSA is following to counter this propaganda/intell strategy that Scientology is doing strictly per the Hubbard playbook rules to OSA.

Once officials see the officials are being used, and Scientology is engaging in convenient self serving propaganda classification, they will be less likely to knee jerk start attacking innocent people who've simply been mis-classified due to Hubbard's orders to OSA that are still on the books.

Society (officials, law enforcement, peers in other faiths) need to see Hubbard's writings, and some smart writer/scholar/journalist needs to wrap their wits around the Hubbard writings that are causing this "game" of propagandizing that stirs up religious leaders and police against Scientology's "enemies."

We don't have anyone educating officials on Hubbard's doctrines that are propagandizing those very officials to do Scientology's (dead Hubbard's) bidding.

We need a big guts writer/author willing to dismantle Hubbard's ideas, lay Hubbard out once and for all.

Heber's decades long work in LA has had a pro Scientology impact.

Too bad all Heber's work was for a man like L. Ron Hubbard, who just didn't deserve Heber's and all these good Scientologists' support.

I still think Scientology is held together by the innate goodness of the members, who put life and good intentions into the movement despite the ruthless self serving tactics Hubbard permanently ingrained as the movement's unchallenged policies.

Chuck Beatty
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology, de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology
From: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, May 11 2008 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: David Miscavige is not a CIA agent. Freezone got it all wrong. The infiltrators are sent in the orgs by German secret services and the apostates are organized by the German secret service too. (They select not so bright people with low IQ and make them

snip

> [Barbara Schwarz (http://www.oha.doe.gov/cases/foia/vfa0567.htm) said:]What Gary Miller changed might have been already former forgeries.

> That there was a person (Gary) who changed alleged L. Ron Hubbard's
> writings should tell you that this was done already before.

> I read rather old bulletins and policies of times long before DM took
> over. By reading it could tell that some of the information in them
> were from Ron and some by somebody else. I also could tell when data
> that Ron wrote were missing in these.

Dear Barbara, If you have the time, I'd gladly tell you the details I know from loads of people who firsthand received orders from Hubbard, to write policy and tech bulletins.

Hubbard ordered people to compile his orders into policy and bulletins. He sidechecked their work and authorized those policies and bulletins.

While he was alive he authorized any of the compilations that people did. He ordered them in all cases to write this or that policy or HCOB.

The reason some policis and bulletins don't sound like LRH is because, as you correctly stated, he did not actually write those policies.

Today there are hundreds of things which are in the OEC and HCOB volumes (green volumes and red volumes) which are actually NOT LRH's sentences.

BUT, the big BUT is the fact that LRH ordered those things to be written, or those things were reports sent to LRH, which he in turn ordered those reports to be compiled into HCOBs or policy, and the people who's job it was to compile issues, they complied with LRH's orders.

People wrote for LRH, and he approved what they wrote, and today those things that other people wrote, are what are in the green and red volumes.

Your story of this is not correct.

The above is what happened.

Russ Williams, Dan Koon, both were compilers.

Another compiler, who is still a parishioner in the church today, but no longer on staff, who can also confirm what I'd written, is Fred Albach, who is in good standing.

Fred was a compiler in Snr C/S Int Office at the time of David Mayo.

Google Fred Albach and you will find even his Scientologist web site.

Another compiler was Ernie Ryan.

Jeff Walker wrote many "HCOBs" at LRH's orders.

Ron Shafron did also.

Brian Livingston I think wrote a few.

There are loads of people who've been ordered by Hubbard to write HCOBs or policies.

I witnessed the despatch from L. Ron Hubbard to Phoebe Maurer, where LRH ordered Phoebe, this was in 1983 or 1984, to go through all his despatch traffic regarding the "computerized routing forms" and I witnessed Phoebe comply with LRH and the result was the policy called ROUTING FORMS, HOW TO WRITE ONE, by LRH, August 8, 1984 II.

I saw the raw LRH despatches, I saw the final policy letter by Phoebe, I saw how she compiled those LRH despatches into the policy letter.

The second to the last paragraph of that policy letter says:

"Copies of all locally approved and issued routing forms are to be sent to the Senior Routing Forms I/C in Senior HCO Int for information." - LRH

I was the first posted "Senior Routing Forms I/C in Senior HCO Int" history.

There are dozens of people who firsthand saw the LRH despatch traffic, and who saw the final authorized HCOBs and HCOPLs that were compiled and approved by LRH.

You are very much spreading confusing disinformation about historical events of the movement.

You produce non stop disinformation Barbara Schwarz, in the Hubbard intelligence game tactics tradition.

You particularly seem to be applying Hubbard policy to the Office of Special Affairs, specifically a section of the TARGETS, DFENSE PL which orders that the intelligence enemies of Scientology should be studied to improve on the intelligence agencies' tactics to Scientology's benefit!

Chuck Beatty

Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:13:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 13 2008 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: Can someone give me more detail on Scientology?

On May 13, 1:42�pm, Askren wrote:

> On May 13, 10:20 am, Roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com wrote:

> > On 13 Maj, 13:07, Miladin Miladinoski

snip

> Dianetics isn't Scientology. Dianetics is a self-help book, completely
> separate from the religion.

> Please, get it right.

Dianetics books today have the volcano prominently on the cover!

Reason being to supposedly restimulate the Xenu genocide incident in the reader, and get the reader's mind "woken up" and slightly enlightened, and sensing that there is somehow hidden truth in L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics!

So, absolutely, there is intentional picture communication in ALL Dianetics books, with that volcano supposedly tickling the new reader's mind into the hidden truths, supposedly, buried or ahead of the reader, should the reader delve into Dianetics, and thence into Scientology.

And absolutely, on OT 3, one learns of the Xenu genocide, occuring supposedly 75 million years ago on earth, at the site of a dozen or so volcanos.

The Dianetics volcano is absolutely now part and parcel of the luring of people up to the high levels of the Bridge to Total Freedom.

This is absolutely the case.

I believe the statement:

DIANETICS TODAY
XENU AND BODY THETANS TOMORROW

is accurate!

The volcano is absolutely intentionally on the DMSMH cover, and truly, from a member's long hard dedicated (self brainwashing) viewpoint, the connection is a "win" if one becomes successfully deluded into Hubbard's fantasy!

OT 3 people relish this idea that Dianetics The Modern Science of Mental Health has the volcano on the cover!!!!

It's a secret "win" when they realize the connection, on that day they read the OT 3 materials and about the Xenu genocide incident!

Chuck Beatty

Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 20:18:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 13 2008 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: Cognitive dissonance ideas are relevant to why Mike Rinder (Scientology PR spokesperson) finally blew

On May 13, 5:09pm, Lafayette at The Beacon

wrote:
> On May 13, 9:08 pm, Psyborgue wrote:

> > I've always heard it called "willful suspension of disbelief"...
> > Sometimes when you want to believe something, or it's your belief
> > system, you consciously (or not) choose to ignore contradictory
> > information. �It's like "no... that can't be true... I won't believe
> > it". �Doubt causes fear of the known "consequences" (hell, loss of
> > salvation, relapse, insanity, death, whatever), fear causes a
> > blowback, causing you to retreat into increased devotion.

> I've heard from various sources that when they were recounting past
> life experiences they were convinced they were real but at the same
> time aware that they were making it up. It's the Santa Claus thing -
> you know for years it's your parents but at the same time you're
> totally convinced he is real.

> Sorry if I've spoilt that for anyone.

> Your humble servant,

> Lafayette.

> http://myurlisname.blogspot.com

> "The e-meter? It lies!"

I always felt my "whole track" (past lives) memories were inferior to what I remembered clearly this lifetime.

And in the disintegration of my belief in past lives, which in my case happened rather suddenly, while I was really starting to look at what all I had achieved in all my thousands of hours of counseling, was that the whole track stuff was ludicrous.

Sitting in the RPF co-audit course room, where a couple dozen people were all "in session" in the same room, and overhearing so much bullshit obvious ludicrous "whole track" memories being voiced so freely, I just felt sickened at the whole group activity of this group of rather young people all making up past lives stories to fit their "case."

It's all fantasy, it's all bullshit, and seeing other people doing it, made me cringe at all my own crappy "whole track" memories that I was trying to make up, as I sat there in that course room making up "whole track" incidents to fit something to do with the auditing question I was answering.

Group fantasy, it's one of the foundations of the group fantasy, to believe in your own and others' bullshit wholetrack fantasy incidents.

I got sickened thinking about the group delusion, and within a two week period, sometime in fall of 2001, is when it all collapsed for me.

I felt we were all conditioned to fake these memories.

Chuck Beatty

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2008/05/jason_beghe_to.php

May 15, 2008 12:33 AM

Letter to Tony Ortega, Chief Editor Village Voice

Thanks Tony! You really get Scientology, thanks! Village Voice is right on top of the frontpeople for Scientology. Tommy Davis, Scientology frontperson, will probably hang in there, since his family are staunch followers, as are all his friends. Scientology is his whole world. I think long range, if Scientology is able to make 2 changes, it would improve it's long range success. 1) Amnesty all the tens of thousands of ex followers who Scienotlogy has labeled "suppressive persons", because doing an Amnesty would result in allowing reconnection to all persons who have been disconnected, so an Amnesty is a fast immediate and thorough solution to the disconnection problem. 2) Allow Scientologists of all "case" levels to freely discuss the Xenu genocide and the "body thetans" theology of Scientology. Those two problems, disconnection and free discussion by Scientology followers of the Xenu genocide/body thetans theology, are the two largest stumbling blocks keeping Scientology in its cult bubble world. Great reporting! Chuck Beatty, ex Sea Org staffer, 1975-2003, Pittsburgh, USA

Posted by: Chuck Beatty

Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: chuckbeatty...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:17:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 29 2008 12:17 am
Subject: Suggestion to ex Scientologists and ex Sea Org members who get asked suspicious questions.....

IMPORTANT HISTORICAL NOTE TO THIS VIDEO!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Umg8vSUpzA&feature=related
specifically at 3:04 into the video, the lady listening to Marc Headley, SHE's a DSA (Department of Special Affairs trainee at the Int Training Org).

The lady in the brown leather coat and who was asking questions of Marc Headley, she's a Class V org staff member, DSA PR in training at ITO (Int Training Org). Ex Scientologists and Ex Sea Org members should know she was pretending to be a parent, when in fact she is soaking them for why they are protesting.

PLEASE PLEASE NOTE, to ANON AND OTHERS: Expect in the LA protests, that possibly the DSA trainees will be sent out, to do intell gathering, posing as parents, etc.

The lady in the sunglasses, she was just been sent out of the building to do her "PR" functions.

MY TIP OF ADVICE: To "blow off" any intell gathering DSA trainees, particularly in future LA protests, because us ex Sea Org members know that ITO trains the DSAs (I did when I was a course sup at ITO, I trained a dozen or more DSAs over the years when I was a course sup at ITO, and I had them go out and do their “practicals”), when you (ex Scientologists, ex Sea Org members) encounter someone who seems slightly suspicious, asking "why are you protesting" type questions, is to "sweep" them with "Body Thetans" and "Xenu genocide" discussion for a few minutes, and STAY on the "Xenu genocide" and "Body Thetans" discussion for a good minute. That will "blow off" any DSA trainees doing intell gathering.

REMEMBER: Discussion of "body thetans" and the "Xenu genocide" is a good way to uninfest the Scientology plants from the demonstrators. But you HAVE to stick to Xenu and Body thetans discussion to really root them out of the crowd. You have to not Q & A off of mentioning “Body Thetans” and “Xenu’s genocide” in the presence of anyone you suspect is a Scientology DSA or Scientology plant at the demonstrations!

My two cents.

Chuck Beatty
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