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From: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com" - Find messages by this a
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Date: 2 Feb 2006 18:45:03 -0800
Local: Thurs, Feb 2 2006 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: To those who want to leave

the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:

> Be careful contacting any poster from here. If you need help, please

People can hook up to people they knew and trust, on XSO:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XSO/

Chuck Beatty
412-260-1170
Toll Free 866-XSEAORG



Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: chuckbeatty77 @aol.com
Date: 2 Feb 2006 23:26:59 -0800
Local: Thurs, Feb 2 2006 11:26 pm
Subject: Ex Int Base staffers. Anyone who's seen petty violence at the Int Base, please come forward

Anyone in recent years having witnessed or received any of the petty slappings, punchings, ranting scoldings and public ridiculing, that has reportedly still been continuing at the Int Base in the last 2 years, please share your experiences. Particularly anyone who's seen David Miscavige engage in petty violence against Mike Rinder. In one particular incident, Mike Rinder reportedly was pummeled to the ground by David Miscavige sometime in the past couple years at the Int Base. Anyone who can confirm seeing that incident, please come forward.

Chuck Beatty
412-260-1170 (call anytime, I live in Pittsburgh)
Ex-Sea Org (lifetime staffer, 1975-2003)
Flag Dec 1975-Jun 1983 (TTC, Sup, Word Clearer, D of T, etc.)
Int Base 1983-1984 (Routing Forms Pjt)
Snr HCO Int in the FB in LA 1984-87
Re-Training (Int and LA) 87-88
Int Training Org, LA 88 (Sec Checker Sup)
LRH Tech Research and Comps, CMO Int, (Sept 88-Feb 89)
Int RPF (Feb-Mar 89)
PAC RPF (Mar-May 89)
Int Training Org (May-Sept 89) (Admin Sup)
INCOMM Sep 89-Sept 90 (Routing Forms Pjt)
INCOMM Sept 90-May92 (Computer Room LA & Int)
ASI May 92-Dec95 (Computer Room, In-Training Esto)
Decks Int (Dec 95-Jun 96)
Int RPF (Jun 96-Nov 2000)
PAC RPF (Nov 2000-Mar2003)
Routed out March 29, 2003.

To Join XSO and network to old Sea Org friends:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XSO/
(I highly recommend ex-Sea Org joining.)

Chuckbeatty77 @aol.com
http://www.freewebs.com/chuckbeatty77/
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05205/542899.stm
412-260-1170 (I'll be happy to network anyone to anyone)
(media call me from time to time, and I will
network anyone to media so people with firsthand
experiences can anonymously or publicly help
expose things that obviously should be changed
inside the movement.)



From: chuckbeatty77 @aol.com - view profile
Date: Fri, Feb 10 2006 9:56 am
Email: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Groups: alt.religion.scientology

There was a meeting [Feb 6-9], XSO chat group reunion, at Las Vegas, for between 10-20 ex Sea Org members.

The rule was and is, that what happens in Vegas, stays at Vegas. Lots of drinking, eating, and sharing old stories. For 3 days for some, and 2 days for me.

There is plenty of years to come, for what I'd like to do, which is spend some weeks interviewing each of all of the old principle figures who are now out of the movement, and record whatever they are willing to share about their experiences and their opinions about it all, and then get that information put somewhere for history's sake.

I think I can share these general things, which I learned from this Las Vegas reunion:

1) Probably abvanced observers of the Scn movement already know firsthand stories of this, but this was new news to me. I learned that people like Greg Wilhere, who is still in the top ranks of the Sea Org (he was last known to be busted out of RTC and now working in next lower Int Base organization in the Int Base pecking order of organizations called CMO Int), that Greg in years past expressed indirectly that he understands, in effect, the "bad" things that DM has brought about.

Several stories I heard relate to Greg using the ploy to say "things will get better" with the implication that if people just wait it out, etc., and that David Miscavige's bad influences will be outlived and smoothed out by others once David Miscavige somehow makes his exit from the stage.

Of course, that hasn't happened. DM has just not let that happen. DM's marginalized and effectively beaten down all competition to replacing him.

But the important fact to me is that people like Greg Wilhere who worked for years doing DM's biddings, that he possessed this thought, whether he was conveniently using it, or he has levels of awareness where he actually recognizes DM's insanity. Greg's sticking it out inside the movement, still near the top ranks, but demoted to CMO Int, down from RTC, in 2005, the last word.

I don't think Greg's the only person feeling that way either. All the others who were in the former clique of "senior execs" (Norman, Ray, Mark Yager, Guilliaume), have all been hammered in recent years, and almost universally, in my opinion, share that hope that DM will vacate the top spot, and things will inevitably improve as a result. They're sticking in there to put the pieces back together, my impression, once DM's out of the picture.

Again, that isn't happening, and looks more unlikely. But as things worsen, it might just jog DM out.

(That's why I so hope people who've been hit and smacked and slapped and pushed and shoved and received any of David Miscavige's ranting scolding ridiculing behavior will come forward, especial who's received it in 2005-2006.)

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2) Separately, importantly, I learned that the former biggies who have "jumped ship" will help any of the existing biggies who are getting clobbered who are still in the Sea Org, if the existing biggies ever decide to "jump ship." If Heber, Norman, Greg, Mark Yager, etc., etc, if any of the current biggies need a place to go to begin to restart their lives, there are people in Las Vegas and around the world, who will lend a helping hand to any of the biggies who decide now or in the future to "jump ship."

But I am sure that Greg, Norman, Mark Yager, etc., etc., already know they have a place a stay and old friends who will help them restart their lives.

The offer stands, and will stand for all the years to come, for them. Their old friends will put them up, and help them restart their lives, if they "jump ship."

For years now in the Sea Org, there have been periodic fads of sec check questions asking Sea Org members if they had any outside contacts to "SPs", and this was done because no one wanted the people inside learning how easy it is to get out and get help restarting their lives after "jumping ship."

3) The former biggies who "jumped ship" are doing extremely well in life. There is no question people look great, and are a joy to be around. They have secured themselves a better life and everyone acts very unthreateningly normal once they are out of the Sea Org rules enforced pecking order hammering on one's subordinates and scapegoats and 1984 history revision game.

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4) 3rd hand story, humor. One former pretty high up biggy who already has "jumped ship" was wondering who would be perfect to lead the movement, and be most like LRH, and replace DM. This former pretty high up biggy was pacing back and forth, thinking outloud at an earlier gathering some time ago of other former biggies, then in a fit of sanity said, DM was the perfect replacement for LRH, and no better replacement was needed for DM. DM's even better than LRH at carrying out LRH's life's work.

So the Scn movement has the perfect match for carrying out LRH's works. DM. There's no better replacement for LRH.

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5) One last generic story. Others know this, I just couldn't believe it, but when you hear it from firsthand ex-participants, there's no contesting it. LRH had people unjustly busted, and then LRH "picked them back up", unquestionably as a sick manipulative tactic to secure people's support and gratitude for LRH. DM's doing the same thing. DM's following LRH's own sick behavior, and doing it better than LRH. This is another factor in the lives of those immediately around DM, but DM's even more the hammering them into submission type, he'd done that better than LRH. LRH was routinely a manipulative SOB and DM's even better at executing LRH's style than LRH.

Oh well.

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I now see the point that one of the former major Sea Org execs who was spit on by DM years back, their advice to me months and months ago was get on with my life, as soon as I could, and enjoy it. Good advice.

The movement is snarled up in its own created troubles. There is a runway getting back to a normal life, and the sooner you get on with enjoying a normal life again, the better.

Chuck Beatty
Ex-Sea Org (lifetime staffer, 1975-2003)
Flag Dec 1975-Jun 1983 (TTC, Sup, Word Clearer, D of T, etc.)
Int Base 1983-1984 (Routing Forms Pjt)
Snr HCO Int in the FB in LA 1984-87
Re-Training (Int and LA) 87-88
Int Training Org, LA 88 (Sec Checker Sup)
LRH Tech Research and Comps, CMO Int, (Sept 88-Feb 89)
Int RPF (Feb-Mar 89)
PAC RPF (Mar-May 89)
Int Training Org (May-Sept 89) (Admin Sup)
INCOMM Sep 89-Sept 90 (Routing Forms Pjt)
INCOMM Sept 90-May92 (Computer Room LA & Int)
ASI May 92-Dec95 (Computer Room, In-Training Esto)
Decks Int (Dec 95-Jun 96)
Int RPF (Jun 96-Nov 2000)
PAC RPF (Nov 2000-Mar2003)
Routed out March 29, 2003.

To Join XSO and network to old Sea Org friends:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XSO/
(I highly recommend ex-Sea Org joining.)

Chuckbeatty77 @aol.com
http://www.freewebs.com/chuckbeatty77/
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05205/542899.stm
412-260-1170 (I'll be happy to network anyone to anyone)
(media call me from time to time, and I will
network anyone to media so people with firsthand
experiences can anonymously or publicly help
expose things that obviously should be changed
inside the movement.)



From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, Feb 13 2006 12:36 pm
Title: L. Ron Hubbard's legacy of writings are being "blue penciled" by history.
Groups: alt.religion.scientology

My main jobs for about 10 of my 27 years during my tenure in the Sea Org (the lifetime staffer administrative bureaucracy of the Scientology movement) had to do with Hubbard's administrative writings contained in the green volumes (see the What Is Scientology book, for a photo of the "green volumes").

LRH's green volumes administrative writings are so thoroughly replete with dismissive opinions of our current civilization, and arrogantly imbued with Hubbard's cosmic science fictionesque inflated megalomanic self-importance of himself and his writings to all human history, that no credible book reviewer has yet bothered to read them from cover to cover to do a "book review" of them.

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LRH preempts the Scientologist from using the outside world for solutions. LRH grandly and unfoundedly declares the world has failed to solve the world's problems, and that civilization is dwindling, but that help for our civilization is ONLY available from LRH researches and writings. The bold ludicrousness of these inflated claims I admit went right over my head.

LRH's rules in the green volumes disallow faithful staffers and parishioners today to contest or question or engage in dissenting discussion internally, or in public, against LRH's writings. Particularly, no staffers may dissent from following administrative policy without pentalty or being "corrected." Hubbard provides a whole extensive body of rules and practises to deal with a staffer's or parishioner's "complaints." Practitioners of Scientology mutinously or disloyally or noisily not following Hubbard's extensive preemptive rules, are eventually ousted from the flock if they don't submit to Hubbard's rules.

All neat and tidy. The result is a permanent lack of rational self-reflection or self-citicism or dissent against any of Hubbard's worst policy rules that a staffer or parishioner in good conscience might disagree with.

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When I came across the following writings from volume 2 of Hubbard's green volumes, I thereafter continuously misinterpreted hopefully this policy for all my subsequent years in the movement.

This is from page 130 of volume 2 of Hubbard's 1991 published edition of the green volumes which are Hubbard's church administrative writings. This specific section I quote was written by Hubbard in March of 1965:

"The thing to guard against in releasing teaching and admin policy letters is the change factor. Teaching and admin evolved with our formative years. Thus, patterns and policies, like our tech, grew better. Growing better, some of it became obsolete."

"When rereleasing an old policy letter, always blue pencil out everything gone old and contradicted by later policy letters."

I mistakenly and secretly misinterpreted this above writing to mean that someday some wise trusted top ranking lifetime staffers of the movement actually would wisely "blue pencil" Hubbard's worst writings.

That shows how seriously I missed the boat on Hubbard.

The world's silence and disinterest in Hubbard's legacy of writings is the world's blue penciling of him..

Oh well.

Chuck Beatty
(ex Sea Org member, 1975-2003)



From: [email protected]
Date: Tues, Feb 14 2006 11:04 pm
Groups: alt.religion.scientology

Uncle Tom's manor wrote:

snip

> "Neil C" may be Chuck Beatty himself who fabricates and alleges and
> never provides any proof.

snip

Dear Barabara S, Dear OSA Int staffers and Eliot Abelson hired Private Eye (Edwin Richardson or whoever),

Only OSA indoctrinated (LRH indoctrinated OSA's think, and thus passed on this underhanded convoluted dishonest thinking rationale to people like you, who buy into this disgraceful and deflecting petty behavior) think like you conjecture above. I guess that is your ingrained old DSA or GO training in you.

People see through the Kenny Shapiro Office of Special Affairs composed fake smear email.

I know for a fact now, that OSA Int staff are privy to the XSO chat group daily postings. OSA has got a little friend like Sterling Tompkins or some of his friends lurking on XSO and passing on the XSO daily traffic right into OSA.

Well, despite OSA's efforts to gather intell and accumulate info so as to predict things, human nature rolls ahead.

People under oppressive conditions, even if silenced by L. Ron Hubbard's elaborate array of "tech" and "ethics" handlings, and attempts to land blame on a person themselves so much that they appear blind to the goofs and injustices within the Sea Org around them, those people still come out of the Sea Org, still wound up in the past injustices, and speak out.

Thus, predictably, I am getting my wish. This person today is a MAJOR new defector from the Int Base ranks.

This person is bolder than the last couple sources who came out.

Each new Int Base staff defector is getting bolder and bolder, and speaking out quicker and quicker.

Defectors defect due to real world rules, not the concocted wrong delusional reasons LRH claims, which you learned to try to paint over top the people who defect and speak out.

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Dear OSA Int people getting to read this raw post of mine,

OSA Int staff wishing to defect, call toll free 866-XSEAORG and leave me instructions on contacting you, or your needs.

And OSA staffers, Lynn Farney, I suggest you begin planning an exit. There are plenty of former Sea Org members who will help you out, if you need a place to stay Lynn and Carol and family.

But, truly, all I wish is for the worst disgraceful behavior that is so humiliating to cease. You must have heard about the inhumane scoldings, pummelings, etc., that David Miscavige feels free to dish out in the recent years and months at the Int Base, Hemet, California. All I wish is for the people at Int to stop receiving these pummelings and ridiculing scoldings.

Let the Int Base staff have a little breathing room, let them display their own innate better behavior and let them put some life back into their posts and their lives uplines.

You tell me, how else is someone gonna affect what is happening at the Int Base, other than exposing what goes on there? They are not self-correcting themselves up there! You yourself, depending on how close you are to DM's behavior, know what I am talking about to some degree, no matter who you are.

Lynn, I know you have to do the reports for the weekly OSA Int report, and daily reports, that go to RTC, and DM sees the watered down version, blah, blah, blah.

All I think anyone wishes on an immediate basis, is for the demeaning humiliating ranting petty physical violence trend to stop. Just for the sake of the lives of those Int Base staffers under this petty reign of disgraceful behavior of David Miscavige.

The people up at Int don't deserve this. No one deserves this "too gruesome" ethics gradient crap DM is dishing out.

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Lynn, Kurt,

We had a Las Vegas meeting of XSO chat group, and the former ousted "SP" ex Sea Org members are all doing surprisingly well, look healthy, are happily well along with normal lives again. And they have been helping people who have been coming out, for years now.

Ex Sea Org are helping each other out.

Anyone in OSA wishing help restarting their lives, outside of the yoke of the movement, just holler. Many will help you!

No one out here is fooled by any of the petty smearing crap. Those who are really out, don't relish being back under the "ethics" control of the movement, at present.

Who wants to be slugged by DM?

Lynn you know and I know, Mike Rinder isn't even allowed to see my posts, especially about Mike being slugged to the ground by DM.

Mike is liked, and many know him from years ago, and would help him out in a heartbeat, if Mike leaves on his own, abruptly. That's why he won't see this post.

You have probably now read a bunch of the posts from ex Sea Org, the supposed "SPs." So you know how nice people can be when they are OUT of the yoke of all the harsh ethics gradients and the pressuring predicaments of the Sea Org.

And now, today, the latest Int Base defector confirms what I've been posting and more.

Kurt, Lynn, take heart.

Plenty of the Ex Sea Org feel for you, and for Carol, I do. There's no agenda, except to help stop the internal Sea Org top ranks disgraceful conditions and hurting. No one deserves it.

The "senior execs" are not even allowed to see the communication from the outside. One reason is the help flow that the senior execs will get, if they jump ship, from the ex Sea Org biggies who left years ago.

Again, the offer stands, the ex Sea Org people who were friends of the busted and bashed up senior execs still up there, believe me, their friends who got out years ago have been helping the others who made it out over years ever since. The former "biggies" are doing amazingly great.

(Heavens forbid, if Eliot is the filter preventing OSA Int staffers from reading my posts.)

The whole train of ex Int Base staffers coming out, believe me, nothing changes. They still are your friends even though they got their "provisional SP" declares and all.

Get onto the XSO chat group, call me, I will network you to anyone you trust and were friends with.

The bigger world is extremely forgiving.

If things were going great uplines, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. But this person's posting:
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/search.php?search_author=blownforgood
show the real scene uplines.

More people, I predict in 2006, will be confirming what this person just confirmed.

I predict also that some biggies will be defecting, and confirming a lot more than just this, also in 2006.

If I were overseeing the Int Base, I'd be thinking about putting in some rewards, and changing the atmosphere uplines, to putting back in liberties, and letting people have some breathing room, etc. Not just that PR one day drill for the LA Times photographer, but longer more permanent stuff.

Anyone in OSA Int who reads this, you can anonymously call my toll free number, and leave me any message you wish. I will try to help you get out, or take any advice you have on how to further undo some of these obvious current bad trends in the atmosphere at Int.

Chuck
412-260-1170
ANY existing Sea Org members on post
call toll free and leave me a message or
your questions 866-XSEAORG



From: [email protected]
Date: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 10:07 pm
Groups: alt.religion.scientology

Barbara Schwarz wrote: snip

Dear Barbara,

If you wish to email this blownforgood, you can. Go to this link, go through the options, email him yourself.
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/search.php?search_author=blownforgood

That is what I did. I went to where he is posting, followed the directions to send him an email, on the Clambake board. I invited him to hook up with people on the XSO chat group, and today he joined and posted on XSO, and like I predicted, he confirmed and chatted with the other sources who similarly saw and experienced all the things I have been posting about.

If you are ex Sea Org, Barbara, you can join XSO. If not, then go to Clambake, and email him through the message board!

I suggested to blownforgood that he post here on ARS, since I know the advanced observers of the Scn movement will greatly appreciate the opportunity to ask him quesitons. I told him about the likes of you (I guess you are a former GO/OSA staffer, steeped and stuck in the "tech" of an OSA staffer, unfortunately, and pretending the wacky "shore story" but constantly playing the straight and narrow OSA tech from the LRH Guardian's Office orders (now called OSA Int Network Orders) and from the OEC Volume 7 policiy letters about the old Government Dept in the old 60's org board).

You play by the current OSA playbook Barbara, and Lynn Farney, or Kurt Weiland, I mean, you are just doing your old OSA hat, but playing the wacky cover/shore story.

But, really, if you stopped play acting for a second, which you can't, since that's your fake role, and you can't go out of character, since that'd be an end to your "game" that keeps people entertained and going, then you could just do what I did, which was use the Clambake message system, and email blownforgood, and get a real email back.

Once people see that they can communicate, normally, and ask all the questions of each other, that normal people are allowed to do, in normal life, then all the paranoic fear bluff threats and fantasy that you spin, will become useless OSA "tech" that is and was all along.

Anyways, anyone anywhere want to email or call me, feel free to do so.

Chuck Beatty
412-260-1170



From: chuckbeatty77 @aol.com
Date: Sat, Feb 18 2006 9:54 pm
Groups: alt.religion.scientology

"The only witness, when DM bullied me, in 1984, was Mark Yager. DM screamed at me, a few inches away from my face, asking me when the fucking re-editing of "Problem of Life" would be fucking completed. My hesitation made him furious. He grabbed me by the shirt, tearing it, and threw me violently against the wall. As they were about to step outside the Editing building, DM turned around and threw a one dollar bill on the floor, saying to me: "For your shirt, so you don't have a motivator on me."

"A few days later, DM and Mark Yager rushed into Editing and went straight to my big bookcase, without looking at me. They grabbed a VHS cassette of mine and left without saying a word. The video cassette was of Amarcord, a film by Italian director Federico Fellini, that won 1974's Best Foreign Film Academy award. I had bought it, along with other foreign film classics, to show to the Cine crew, so as to broaden everyone's knowledge and appreciation of different film genres and styles. An hour or so after the VHS confiscation, I could no longer stand not knowing what was going on. So, I ventured over to Del Sol and walked through the top floor of the building... My video cassette was playing in an office and I clearly heard DM and others laughing their heads off and saying things like: "There! Look at that!"

"As it turned out, DM apparently wrote a report to LRH stating that I was using porn flicks to learn my editing techniques from. LRH wrote a despatch "Re: Bruno", which I was shown, eventually, but was not allowed to read. Needless to say, I was thoroughly sec checked and I soon found my way to the RPF (after a short stop in DM's office with the Bosun!). Oddly enough, the RPF assignment made no mention of the so-called porn flick. All that it said was that I had produced an overt product and that I had willingly gone past a misunderstood word.

"I had been several months in the RPF, when a CMO Int messenger (whom I don't remember the name, unfortunately) came over to me and handed me a package. "This is yours", he said with a friendly wink. It was my VHS cassette of Amarcord.

"Those names that you mention, Carmen and Gary Weise, Dan and Sue Koon, Lyman and Carol Spurlock, Charlie Rush, Waldo, boy do they bring sweet memories to me! I miss their friendship, along with the friendship of so many others: Tamia Arbuckle, Rick Cruzen, Joe Caneen, Josh Hemphill, Wak and Sue (Kennedy) Allcock, Fernando and Terry, Claire Rossouw, Suzette, Arthur, Andre Clavel, etc.

"I seem to remember Maureen, but I think she was in the CMO at the time.

"As far as sharing anything to a public forum such as ARS, feel free to do whatever you want, with whatever I write to you. I fully trust you and your judgment. I do not fear OSA.

"Bruno Parent
(I was in the SO at SU/Gold from late 1978
to mid 1985,mostly as Chief Editor)"

posted from email from Bruno to me. Chuck Beatty



From: [email protected]
alt.religion.scientology site
Date: Fri, Feb 24 2006 10:38 pm
Email: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Groups: alt.religion.scientology

V© wrote:

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> > why dont some of you get to gether and arrange a 'hit'?
> >seriously, it would only be a matter of money would
> >it? I dont believe DM is some untouchable or
> > inaccessable superhuman right? i cant help due to the
> >fact I live too far away (understatement!) :-(
> > Seriously?

> We're 'wogs'[1] (well some of us anyway) and stick to 'wog' laws.
> Dumb suggestions like this, especially in the light of your earlier
> tale, lead me at least to consider you either juvenile, ignorant,
> trolling or just another third rate agent provocateur.

> Howard

> >well, I am new here. I do not deny that and it is very clear
> > that most of you are VERY paranoid. I guess there must be good
> >reason for that and for all I know I may end up like that myself.
>> I spose there is no point in me even trying to refute your
> >accusations, so I wont.

> >I am very sorry- but after sitting here and reading
> >many of the posts on this forum and reading some of the
> > websites mentioned here- I am ANGRY. very angry. and I now
> >realise after reading about so many of the victims
>> experiences here that my little problem could well become a
> >much bigger problem- and I realise now it is futile to just
> >sit back passively and get screwed over. I plan to attck
> >scientology head on now and will do whatever I can with my
> > >[1] A term of disparagement used in the CoS to refer to
> >the rest of us.

> Thank you for the explanation Howard.

snip

Dear V,

My name is Chuck Beatty. I was a lifetime staffer bureaucrat in the Scientology movement.

If you have read about the extensive amount of money and time over the past 3 decades, that this new religious movement has spent in defaming, harrassing, all extensively documented in numerous court cases, and site after site exposing in detail, even the church hired private eyes, and even attornies detailing the harrassment, then you would grasp the underlying paranoia about retaliation.

I was a lifetime staffer from 1975 till 2003. I was in the lifetime staffer "prison system" the last almost 7 years of my lifetime staffer career.

Please see my extensive posts, since I've gone public. (links below)

People who speak from decades of firsthand experience, inside the "cult", were sometimes oblivious, sometimes quite knowing participants of the odd and offensive behavior attributed (and mostly rightly so) to the Scientology movement.

There are papers and books on why people succumb and withstand, and even participate in the most offensive of human to human degradation.

Scientology is pretty minor potatoes, compared to other movements and other people's behavior.

The top leader of the church of Scientology, David Miscavige, was said to have physcially struck subordinates in the top lifetime staffer ranks. I was inside the movement for almost 3 decades, and had heard of the rumors of David's petty violence, and other people's "allowed" petty violence, and only when I got out, after being in for 27 years, and after hearing about it, and then remembering how it was hushed up, and also the pressures and threats I sensed and received, did I put it all together. I then began asking those, and trying to piece together the history, and what came up, is that in the last 5 or so years, the petty violence is at a whole sick new level.

My goal is expose it. My goal is wipe it out of the movement's reperatoire of internal administrative "tools" for dishing out justice to its own most dedicated of members.

Your reactions are your own learning curve to this subject. When you read more and see that other experts have already written and discussed, you will see how people are led into these predicaments, step by step, so they stand by helplessly, while mentally denying the simplicity of what they see or experience.

My goal for 2006, is network about 6 or so ex top ranking lifetime staffers who actually witnessed the David Miscavige pummelings, and I'd particularly like to get about 6 persons who saw David pummel Mike Rinder, and get them to allow themselves to be interviewed by Anderson Cooper.

Inside the bureaucracies, at the top, there is simply no one there able to mentally make the leap and go to the police and report it. The mindset of those that stand there and take and watch others take the petty physical abuse is so deeply instilled.

Outside experts are probably the only ones who understand, without reacting with immediate revengeful retaliatory reactions like yours.

Believe me, I had my moments of rage in response, when I had my few moments myself. I have posted on my exact scenario.

I have found that it takes some time to learn how to even describe the feelings, and convey it simply. It is so easy if one has been in the movement, at the top bureaucratic ranks, and seen and watched others get these pummelings, or having heard of the pummelings, to dive into other thoughts, about Hubbard, about Hubbard's good, about this or that, whatever, and evade the normal outrage one should feel for this dispicable offensive behavior.

Hubbard's writings turn one's world all around, and ever so slowly, over the years, so that these high ranking lifetime staffer bureaucrats who are the ones perpetrating the petty top ranks violence, and receiving it, are considered "proofed" against reacting with a normal human being's more honest outrage. No one even considers going to police to report the beatings.

Protesting David Miscavige's beatings, means instant loss of all status, and immediate ejection from the cherished position of working at the movement's top ranks, which for most at that level, is the majority of their life's accomplishments. One would be ousted, and lose repute. One would be giving up one's cherished career, which oneself has built upon oneself over the years, and fighting back against a beating one probably even agrees one deserved, or learned to deserve, one usually doesn't think he has any option to fight back.

One is there for Hubbard's legacy of the good that they believe is inherent in Hubbard's writings about helping mankind spiritually. Hubbard is so hyperbolically self-congratulatory about himself and his role in the universe, it becomes an all or nothing proposition to mutiny and strike back at David Miscavige as he is pummeling one of them.

David very thoroughly mpresses on those he beats up, that they deserve the group's condemnation at that moment, that fighting back would be plainly mutinous. Even past victims of David's wrathful scoldings and pummelings have said as late as decades later, that when they got the beatings, they felt they "deserved it." People are led to feel they deserve the pummelings, so they withstand them.

Hubbard himself punched and throttled at least a few persons, and his unofficial behavior is the unofficial behavior that David Miscavige dramatises in upholding Hubbard's management style to the letter.

I hope to instill in at least about 6 former recent defectors from the top ranks, the courage to come forward, and expose this sick petty violence, and get just this one small piece of the harm in the Scientology movement to stop.

Chuck Beatty
Ex-Sea Org (lifetime staffer, 1975-2003)
Flag Dec 1975-Jun 1983 (TTC, Sup, Word Clearer, D of T, etc.)
Int Base 1983-1984 (Routing Forms Pjt)
Snr HCO Int in the FB in LA 1984-87
Re-Training (Int and LA) 87-88
Int Training Org, LA 88 (Sec Checker Sup)
LRH Tech Research and Comps, CMO Int, (Sept 88-Feb 89)
Int RPF (Feb-Mar 89)
PAC RPF (Mar-May 89)
Int Training Org (May-Sept 89) (Admin Sup)
INCOMM Sep 89-Sept 90 (Routing Forms Pjt)
INCOMM Sept 90-May92 (Computer Room LA & Int)
ASI May 92-Dec95 (Computer Room, In-Training Esto)
Decks Int (Dec 95-Jun 96)
Int RPF (Jun 96-Nov 2000)
PAC RPF (Nov 2000-Mar2003)
Routed out March 29, 2003.

Join XSO and network to old Sea Org friends:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XSO/

[email protected]
http://www.freewebs.com/chuckbeatty77/
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05205/542899.stm
412-260-1170 (anyone can call me anytime)
(media call me from time to time, and I will
network anyone to media so people with firsthand
experiences can anonymously or publicly help
expose things that obviously should be changed
inside the movement.)



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