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From: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 7 2009 11:55 pm
Subject: "Scientology" edited by James R. Lewis, first page of the "Introduction" , review, page by page of this book.....

(I was intimately involved in Scientology, a lifetime staffer, from 1975 until I left Scientology staff, in 2003. 27 straight years on staff, for Scientology. See me earlier review of this Lewis anthology book on "Scientology.") I will sub review each chapter of this anthology of articles on "Scientology." I begin by reviewing the "Introduction" by the editor, James R. Lewis.

Lewis starts his introduction by mentioning an anecdote of his displeasure observing a non scholar expert, being interviewed on a cable TV news station. To an ex member such as myself, who has been trying to get scholars interested in really properly studying Scientology, and I've spent considerable time myself reaching out to some scholars. I know who is receptive, who is watching the chat sites, and who the other informed ex members think which scholar actually knows their stuff, and which scholars are arrogant blowhards and "experts" in their own minds.

Ex members who spent a few decades in Scientology only universally praise one scholar, who was NOT included in this anthology, Professor Stephen Kent, of University of Alberta, who outside of the Church of Scientology, Professor Kent's trove of research materials on Scientology is bigger than any other university in the world. Also Professor Kent's personally interviewed dozens of ex members, and ex members send Kent their memoirs. Somehow, Kent is embroiled in some conflict with some of these scholars included in this "Scientology" anthology, and Kent was not included, I have no idea why. He should have been, and any disagreements set aside. Kent in my opinion has the widest ex member set of contacts, and he's the most diligent in listening to ex members speak the details of what goes on inside the staff ranks at least.

But Lewis in his introduction first page anecdote of watching this "expert" on cable TV news, I knew instantly that Lewis was referring to Prof Dave Touretzky of Carnegie Mellon University ("...a respected university..."). Professor Dave Touretzky is a vocal critic of Scientology, and indeed Touretzky has several times been on CNN and CBS and Fox News also. Prof Dave Tourekzky indeed is not a cult expert, nor religion sociologist nor new religious movement scholar. But strikingly Touretzky is at least an extremely well read and informed academic who has taken up Scientology and has at least been willing to listen to ex members discuss their firsthand experiences in the movement. Lewis failed to mention that to all the public's benefit, Professor Dave Touretzky's web site at Carnegie Mellon University provides the single largest easily accessible assembly of books and government papers critical of Scientology,

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/ I've spent hours reading from Touretzky's Scientology reference site.

A few sentences into criticizing "non expert" "non scholar" Professor Touretzky, Lewis states this "...research professor from a respected university.......He [Touretzky] emphasized standard negative information about Scientology, such as the Guardian Office's covert infiltration program (neglecting to mention that the Church eventually shut down the Guardian's Office and disciplined the individuals responsible for illegal activities)...."

Now, here's a point against Lewis, and against those from whom Lewis got his information, and this is EXACTLY relevant to the humility point that Lewis lacks, and to this petty issue scholars argue over, the "expert" game.

No one claiming to be an expert of Scientology would fail to know that the Guardian's Office was replaced by the Office of Special Affairs. Only scholars bamboozled by Scientology Office of Special Affairs Public Relations front people would be stating the Scientology PR line.

The Office of Special Affairs existence and functions, and details, are in the public domain, and scholars who have NOT looked, read, and met a few ex Office of Special Affairs staffers, would say in arrogant ignorance what Lewis unfortunately says, and ironically, he uses this as an example to play one-up-manship with "non expert" Professor Dave Touretzky.

This is the type of gaffe I wish scholars like Lewis did NOT make, but they aren't humble enough to even admit this type of major mistake on their part.

Lewis should minimally meet and interview an ex staffer named Frank Oliver, Frank's been filmed on TV, Frank is an undisputed real expert on the dirty deeds still perpetrated by the Office of Special Affairs, since he apprenticed under the Office of Special Affairs and engaged in, and publicly revealed what he, Frank Oliver, did.

Frank was Department of Special Affairs, which is the lower echelon, with Office of Special Affairs International being the top rung. Frank was from the Miami Scientology church, apprenticing in LA helping and working directly with Office of Special Affairs superiors.

Further Frank leaked his training pack into the public domain, "Investigations Officer Full Hat" (training pack of Hubbard church policies, and significant is these policies were titled "Office of Special Affairs Network Orders" and they all had L. Ron Hubbard as the byline, and further, today, there is an internet site with a comparison, policy by policy, of the old "Guardian’s Office" policies, with this new set of "Office of Special Affairs Network Orders"). I detail all this, since this is what I thought was what real scholar experts did, which is dig up the Hubbard writings, compare the old Guardian's Office writings to the Office of Special Affairs writings of today, and see if the stuff is the same!

Which scholar met with Frank, years ago? Professor Dave Touretzky.

Which scholar knows that the Office of Special Affairs today does what the Guardian's Office did of old, is still doing today? Professor Dave Touretzky.

What scholar looked up Frank for this anthology, to correct Lewis' mistake on page 1? None.

What "expert" even read this page one of the Introduction to this "Scientology" vaunted Oxford University Press scholarly book and even spotted, and even commented on this completely relevant research point!!!!

An ex member of the movement, me!

If Mr. Lewis had asked me, I'd have referred him to the site that "amateur" Scientology critics have put up, where the old Guardian's Office writings of L. Ron Hubbard are compared to the Office of Special Affairs policies guiding Scientology today. The Office of Special Affairs Hubbard writings today, leaked luckily by Frank Oliver, a man Lewis surely hasn't interviewed, but Frank Oliver is someone Dave Touretzky knows and has spoken with and Dave knows the significance of the OSA policies that Frank leaked and which we luckily have in the public domain today as proof of just how much Scientology's Office of Special Affairs is the new Guardian's Office of days ago.

So, who is the expert?

Lewis wouldn't be able to actually comment accurately about the Office of Special Affairs without first reading the leaked "Investigations Officer Hat Checksheet" pack, and speaking to Frank Oliver, and speaking to the other several ex Office of Special Affairs staff members who have defected and are willing to speak, some publicly, some privately.

That's what us ex members, who ARE experts in Hubbard's Scientology, ARE willing to do. We will speak to scholars who can sift through the Hubbard writings, and listen to us!

Humility, and honest research. More is needed! Ex members will help scholars find the Hubbard reference, and we'll tell how we applied those Hubbard references, and the issue about the Guardian's Office's offensive tactics, exactly what is still done today, what Hubbard writings are still "on the books" well scholars have to at least get up to square zero, look at the Hubbard material in the public domain, speak to some ex members, and LISTEN!

And maybe quote a few of Hubbard's extant Office of Special Affairs writings, here are my favorite, for the public to see here, but what they won't find quoted in this "Scientology" anthology:

"OFFICE OF SPECIAL AFFAIRS NETWORK ORDER 15, 18 February 1988 Confidential BLACK PROPAGANDA (Originally written by LRH on 12 January 1972. Issued as OSA NW Order on 18 February 1988.) ... To cease to be the effect of classification and become in our turn the cause of it, the classifier, is to win the propaganda game. Our propaganda is dirty.... We do this trick by survey and attack.... we become re-classified as attackers and the enemy as bad hats as they're for the evil if they attack us... We just run propaganda campaigns....It reclassifies our attackers as evil people... we (1) Seek to avoid opportunities for the enemy to classify us. (2) Contest or expose any previous classifications as false (dead agentry, etc.) (3) Engage in a series of campaigns which confuse past classification. (4) Achieve for ourselves a dominance in classifying ourselves and others." "L. RON HUBBARD, Founder , Adopted as official Church policy by CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL “

"16 FEBRUARY 1969 ISSUE IV REISSUED 24 SEPTEMBER (Reissued with updated distribution.)" "Limited Distribution: OSA NW [Office of Special Affairs Network], IMEC [International Management Executive Committee, consisting of the Watchdog Committee and the Executive Strata and other leadership positions from Scientology movement's top bureaucratic ranks], PRs" "Confidential" "TARGETS, DEFENSE" ".....The errors we have made have been:...4. Failing to attack early and hard.....7. Not learning enemy tactics and using and bettering them." "....B. Our next best defense line was being sure the public knew we were a Church." "...The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are: ...Depopularizing the enemy to a point of total obliteration." "....Use all other similar groups as allies." "L. RON HUBBARD" "Founder" "Adopted as official Church policy by CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL"

These two references are key explanatory references showing the focused targeted tactics of the Office of Special Affairs against the young people's group of anti Scientology protestors, called "anonymous."

Scientology has engaged in a very propaganda like campaign against "anonymous."

The point? Scientology is still doing what it did before, which is spreading dirty propaganda against its enemies.

What is the evidence that the church of Scientology is still doing tactics which are from the Guardian's Office era? I just quoted two of the offensive Hubbard policies, still on the books, above.

These references by Hubbard above, leaked when Frank Oliver leaked his training materials into the public domain.

Ex members count, and what Hubbard wrote counts. Scholars, like Lewis, had better start cracking and doing some real honest research.

I certainly don't begrudge media resorting to listening to the amateur experts like Professor Dave Touretzky.

"Non expert" Professor Touretzky has done more homework on Scientology than real "expert" Professor Lewis, in my ex member (27 years of intimate Scientology lifetime staffer duty) opinion.

And further, Professor Stephen Kent, Univ of Alberta, not included in this anthology, has done way more detailed study and time spent interviewing ex members who can today speak freely, thankfully, has done way more time learning about Scientology and Lewis for some reason couldn't include an article from Kent.

This is what I think of, when I read the first page of the introduction of "Scientology" edited by James R. Lewis.

Page 2 tomorrow.

Chuck Beatty
ex Sea Org staffer (Scientology's lifetime staff religious order,
1975-2003)
Pittsburgh, USA 412-260-1170

Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Apr 19 2009 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: OT 8, OSA, 40 years of scientology, and NO-Confront, NO TR1, NO TRUTH!

On Apr 19, 5:21 am, "xenufrance" wrote:

> I've right now gotten the excellent "Devoir d'Enqu te" show from the RTBF
> (belgian main national TV). I never saw it before.

> At the end of the good and long summary of scientology crimes, where John
> Duignan , me and some other ex-members of the cult were interviewed one hour
> along, the OT8 Marc Bromberg, 40 years of scientology, a guy I know a lot
> because he has been a friend long ago, is lying a lot before the TV , and
> worse, he can't even have what could look for a correct TR0 or TR 1!

> He's blinking every two seconds if not more, is stumbling on words, adds
> lots of uh and euh everywhere.

> A terrible exemple of what a scientologist of the upper levels, with an
> incredible number of scientology courses done, looks like.

> Poor Marc Bromberg.

> He was one of the people who came after we left long ago, so as to get us
> back to manage our org.

> So, not only scientology made him a dishonest liar publicly lying on the
> fact that his cult was never sentenced *as an organization* (it was at leat
> in France!), but it never taught him to confront anything but the lies of
> the cult.

> Pitiful.

> r

What is so sad, is this all traces to Hubbard's personal lack of humility, and this lack of human humility transfers and smothers the personalities of the Scientologists who are trained to be the spokespeople of the movement.

They are trained in the policies that the great Vaughn Young wrote so eloquently about, these high level Scientologists who become the people who try to publicly defend Scientolgoy are limited in their Hubbarfd public relations training.

They are not free to mix the outside world's smarter ideas into their heads and act like normal citizens who have access the freedom to adopt other ideas which are NOT just Hubbard's ideas.

Scientologists who speak for the Scientology movement are sadly stuck with the Hubbard repertoire of rules and public relations side stepping tactics.

And when these OT 8 Scientologists like your old friend Marc Bromberg try to do their duty in defending Scientology, their lack of spiritual achievements (no demonstrable "super powers" on display in their behavior or wisdom, or shining glowing compassion or understanding), instead, these Scientologist men and women inevitably bumble along stuck within L. Ron Hubbard's mindset.

They don't even see how they've limited themselves, the opposite of becoming free to speak their opinions and really compare and freely debate.

They can only do what Hubbard limits them to say and do. And it is dead Hubbard's rules that are their limiting barriers today, and they cannot do anything but play within those Hubbard rules, all because dead Hubbard gave them no option to fight and change his mistaken rules.

They can only warp their minds to agree that Hubbard's stifling rules are correct, and they praise these rules that keep them isolated and unfree from normal citizen's freedom to debate and praise OTHER ideas of other leaders and other smart people.

Hubbard's Scientology is a mind crippling system that isolates the members from praising other great minds, and from normal citizen's rights to "think freely."

Scientology when studied by any normal citizen long enough, if the citizen will look at the critical debates against the worst of Hubbard's rules, will inevitably see the predicament demonstrated by a supposed TOP level Scientologist like Marc Bromberg, OT 8 (non super spiritual powerful person, rather a normal citizen with layers of Hubbard's rules stifling their thinking processes and speech).

Disconnection I think is the issue that even scholars will agree is too extremely employed to everyone's detriment.

Does Marc Bromberg have any SP family members?

Chuck Beatty
thanks for your years and years and years of active good citizen sharing of your thoughts Roger!!!

Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: "chuckbeatty77 @aol.com"
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:13:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 25 2009 10:13 am
Subject: Re: MESSAGE TO ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS!!!

On Apr 21, 8:48 pm, CaptainAdderall wrote:

> I am a critic from Washington DC and LA....

> Please explain this to me-http://bayimg.com/image/caolkaabe.jpg

> If you are a religion, why do you charge people THOUSANDS of dollars
> for this information????

> And when people ask about it, you claim it does not exist...

> Recently Tommy Davis confirmed that this document is intact legit...

> So why all the secrecy, lying, fair gaming, disconnecting, and money
> making???

> Religion is free.... Scientology is not.

> If you are in Washington, DC or the Los Angeles/Hollywood area... and
> would like to discuss this...or if you would like to escape from
> Scientology... I would be happy to help.

> CaptainAdderall
> youtube.com/ihateh1pp13s

Scientology founder died in 1986, well before the internet spreading of information.

Hubbard made the mistake of starting out in the late 1960s making the OT 3 and other "upper level" spiritual procedures and their theory, confidential.

He wrote severe penalty rules guarding their secrecy.

Were it not for these penalty rules, Scientologists would have evolved and been able to discuss the Xenu space alien leader's causing that mass mega genocide (planticide) that resulted in the zillions of bodiless "body thetans" that have been trapped by the electronic force fields, etc, trapped here on earth for millions of years, and those "body thetans" attach themselves to us.

Hubbard's style all throughout the whole Scientology new religious movement history has been to downplay the science fiction reality aspects of this new religion (or fraud cult that sells pie in the sky spiritual abilities that no one ever achieves).

The Scientologists today cannot think their way around Hubbard's penalty rules.

I feel their problem is directly due to those penalty rules relating to NOT ever publicly discussing the confidential levels of Scientology.

In the last almost 15 years, with the Xenu story and all the rest of the OT levels being leaked into the public domain, now the public is catching up, and what I feel is needed, to actually break down the Hubbard penalty rules, is a dumbing down of the confidential story, so the public can absorb the story simply.

Other cults never die off quickly, and Scientology will not be dying off quickly, there'll be no sudden collapse.

The whole group of believers slowly unwind from the Hubbard mindset, it's not a quick sudden collapse in their beliefs in what they consider good about Hubbard's various "techs".

Realisitically, what I think is good, is continue to make the confidential materials available, like you are doing, and also give simple explanations, of it all, to the Scientologists, since most of them never get up to OT 3, especially the staff of the Scientology churches and organizations.

I think a more neutral simple telling of their confidential materials back to the members, will erode the Hubbard penalty rules that they themselves cannot change.

Hubbard left them with upper manangement structures that are disfunctional, but those upper structures (Watchdog Committee and International Executive Strata) should actually be the ones to propose some sort of change so as NOT to penalize their own members for discussing what is already in the public domain.

Right now their members are heavily penalized (they risk forfeiting being allowed to do the upper spiritual levels) if they breach the security and discuss the upper levels.

The best they can do is like Tommy Davis, and admit these levels exist, and admit that the voice of Hubbard telling the Xenu holocaust story on YouTube is Hubbard's voice, and that's about as far as they can go, without their penalty rules kicking in, and them being guilty of violating those penalty rules, which would result in a forfeiting of them being allowed to do the upper spiritual levels.

It is a huge predicament, a HUGE one, for them.

The public I feel should get a simple neutral telling of the OT confidential story, and be shown the materials, like the media does.

The members are stuck wtih Hubbard's penalty rules, which is why they cannot even "go there" and discuss Xenu and "body thetans."

So I suggest always play the Hubbard 6-8 minute clip of the Class 8 Assists lecture where Hubbard in his own voice tells of the holocaust Xenu incident.

It's "new news" to most of the Scientologists, and is an important educational cultural phenomenon that is transpiring.

The outside world is being widely exposed to these confidential materials, and no one is getting sick nor having any ill effects.

But most important, they will at least understand the big confidential story about why there are so many "body thetans" floating bodiless on earth today, and why those "body thetans" are stuck to all of us, and why the OT levels today are so important, since only the Scientology OT levels will help a person get rid of their load of "body thetans" who are attached to us. Our "body thetans' " cases leak into our thoughts, and cause us mental trouble.

We don't simply have our own "case." We are also influenced by the "case" of every "body thetan" who is somewhat "awake" and active.

Per Hubbard when we think, we can activate the thoughts of some of our hitchhiking "body thetans" and the thoughts of our hitchhiking "body thetans" can leak into our own thoughts, confusing and influencing us.

Truly, this whole Xenu and "body thetan" story and reality (real to Hubbard, real to Scientologists) explains why Scientology is a spiritual therapy.

From Dianetics mental therapy, to dealing with the "case" of the spirit, to dealing with the "case" of the "body thetans" attached to us.

That explains it all, it is a spiritual mental therapy.

And the science fiction aspect of it is obvious.

I feel Scientology is a science fiction reality spiritual therapy cult new religion.

So I agree it is always good to talk Xenu, talk body thetans, talk about Scientology being a therapy that addresses the "case" of the participant, and in the upper levels of Scientology, they address the "case" of their "body thetans." by doing their upper levels spiritual procedures to get their "body thetans" to eject off them, that relieves the upper level OT Scientologists from any mental influence of their "body thetans' " cases.

Simple as that. And they believe this.

And the Hubbard penalty rules prevent them from talking about it, and they can't change his penalty rules.

Chuck Beatty
ex Scientology staffer (1975-2003)
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